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Post by cambo on Jul 25, 2019 18:36:18 GMT 10
 July 29th 2019Round 5
Magnificent Park - Steam Workshop
Mods - Both GT3 Packs & Oreca07 (From Endurance Pack) Steam Store
Server : simracingaustralia#2 - Password Race Night - HERE
Team Speak: simracingaustralia.net (Need to be connected to race, mic not compulsory as long as you can hear briefing)
Race Program
| Session | Time +10UTC
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| | Practice | 6:30PM | 120 minutes | | Qualifying | 8:30PM | 5 minutes each class
GT3 Qualifying 1 Session
LMP2 Qualifying 2 Session
| | Warmup | 8:40pm | 10 minutes + Briefing | | Race | 8:50PM | TMF Rolling start - see note below
70 minutes
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Start Procedure: Manual formation lap, single file rolling start, no overlapping or overtaking before the start/finish line
- Green flag on the grid signals the start of the formation lap. (don't move before the green to avoid penalties from the game)
- Leader will set the pace at 100km/h; maintain single file. If you spin, let the whole field pass and rejoin at the rear - you may NOT retake your original starting position.
- Leader can accelerate at their discretion AFTER exiting the final corner
-GT3 Pole sitter will keep a gap to the LMP2 for the start
Passing Lapped Cars
It is up to the LMP2 car to cleanly pass the lapped car. Lapped cars keep to the racing line and allow the LMP2 car pass.
Every driver gets an entry into the Prize draw for every round they race |
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Post by Sputnik_inc on Jul 26, 2019 7:31:34 GMT 10
Day night transitions?
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Post by cambo on Jul 26, 2019 12:01:47 GMT 10
No not this one, all in daylight |
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Post by cambo on Jul 29, 2019 12:28:44 GMT 10
Race Day
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Post by Sputnik_inc on Jul 30, 2019 10:13:01 GMT 10
Can i please get a replay file for the race.. got the blue screen of death midway through the race
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easty
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Post by easty on Jul 30, 2019 18:37:05 GMT 10
Just a question? Im driving the Aston with a fuel tank of 115 ltrs, the Mclaren has a fuel tank of 120 ltrs and seems to make it possible to run one less pit stop. Not sure what tank sizes are in the other cars, but dose this make for an unfair advantage as a pit stop adds over 30 40 seconds to your race.
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Post by Sputnik_inc on Jul 30, 2019 19:20:32 GMT 10
The Astons have the smallest tanks 115 Litres and as far as i know the rest have 120, the reason the Aston has a smaller tank is cause they are not as thirsty as the others, the others seem to have a little more power, hence the reason they have 5 litres more, but on this track and the fuel being set to X3.. 5 litres makes no differance at all, but in these 70 min endurance races the Aston has a slight advantage cause big power means more fuel. Also depends on how you drive and setup, Anton was running an average fuel consumption of 14.61, as you were running 17.27 and i was running 16.02, of course other things depend on fuel consumption, rear wing, engine braking, engine tape and early gear changes.
If you have a look at the Philip Island race you'll notice i was running the lowest fuel consumption and only made 2 stops.
Go to the Championship Manager to have more race detail, its very useful.
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Post by easty on Jul 30, 2019 19:36:28 GMT 10
That extra 5 ltrs makes a lot of difference by giving an extra lap more easily possible, I was pitting just shy of being able to go for another lap. Thats about 20 ltrs + of unused fuel ,and only able to put in 95 odd ltrs in to have the tank back up to 115 lts.
Seems a bit nerfed, its right on the limit and gives the fuel advantage to the bigger fuel tank cars.
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Post by christopheraser on Jul 30, 2019 20:00:09 GMT 10
That extra 5 ltrs makes a lot of difference by giving an extra lap more easily possible, I was pitting just shy of being able to go for another lap. Thats about 20 ltrs + of unused fuel ,and only able to put in 95 odd ltrs in to have the tank back up to 115 lts. Seems a bit nerfed, its right on the limit and gives the fuel advantage to the bigger fuel tank cars. I can say right now that the McLaren and the BMW have the same sized tank and the McLaren burns fuel quite a bit quicker, so assuming that just cause the cars have the same sized tank they are all burning it at the same rate is not correct.
This sounds like a BOP thing to me especially if what Gazza is saying is the case.
It's not possible for us to change the mod as far as I know and even if it was it's just more work for Cambo, so it's really moot point anyway. Unless you are requesting to change car and that would need to be approved by Cambo, although I doubt he would have an issue with it.
If you were just shy it shouldn't have been too hard over the stint to save the extra laps worth of fuel. I have had to do some interesting things particularly in the first stint of some of these races to eek an extra lap out. I was clutch in and coasting at every chance during the Donnington round at the end of my first stint. I think the whole point of this championship was to give us something different from the old one or two stop race and force us to use the pit menu, save fuel/tyres and make decisions on track. Ultimately it caught me out last night and it was a bit frustrating, but it's also nice to race something different. |
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Post by Sputnik_inc on Jul 30, 2019 20:05:02 GMT 10
If you had 20 litres of unused fuel you could have completed another lap easily, since your average was only 17.27 litres per lap, i use sim hub during the race and sim hub was showing me 18,5 litres per lap, that 5 litres extra would only get you just under a third of a lap anyway. Anton was able to stretch it out cause he drove slower than all of us, the pit lane at this track is also very long, so making a 3rd pit stop would make you lose even more time, if i was able to continue i was also going to make a 3rd pit stop, not because my fuel tank is 5 litres smaller, but because i was driving a little faster and using more fuel, it was my strategy.
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Post by anton_Chez on Jul 31, 2019 23:17:47 GMT 10
Spot on boys. I actually race to the strategy as I'm sure a lot of you do, too. I work out how many liters the entire race is going to cost me. Then I weight up if going slower on a fuel save strategy is worth the potential lost laps times. Since every track is different and also every pit lane is different, this will make the decision either favourable or not. It also depends on the other drivers and what they are planning to do. I chose to run a set of hard tyres for the entire race and stopped for full tank of fuel twice. Given the length of the lap, the treacherous sweeping corners and the fact that I probably needed more laps to be consistently quick, I decided I'd benefit from the fuel save. In the end it worked out well. Don't forget that these are official cars and Studio 397 would have either a) taken into account the real world BOP on the various cars or b) made some slight adjustments to the cars in certain areas to try to achieve some sort of parity. It all comes down to race management and pre-planning for this sort of stuff. Stopping just because you're not going to make the next complete lap without running out of juice is the opposite of what this series is all about. I quite like the idea of having so many options at my disposal and am experimenting all the time.
edit: Just as a matter of reference, on soft tyres and pushing hard, my McLaren was using just over 20 liters of fuel per lap. So you can see how much difference you can make to the fuel usage by choosing to save fuel and picking the right moments to do it. You don't even need to be on a full fuel save strat. Just lifting at the end of 2 long straights for an extra 100m or so can cave you a liter of fuel per lap. It can save your refill time for not a whole time lost on track.
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Post by cambo on Aug 1, 2019 18:10:03 GMT 10
The way you drive can make a difference to the fuel burn , looking at my MOTEC log (although I only completed a few laps , my fuel was 20.6, 21.6, 21.4 and thats just over 4 laps over the whole race this could vary so much that it almost makes it impossible to predict how much fuel each driver will use, bringing race planning into the mix. I tried to make the series as Anton & Chris mentioned , to try and offer a few different strategies that make you think which one will be the fastest.
In previous races I have tried to save fuel when margins are close and eek out just 1 extra lap, which can also save time in pit lane as less fuel means less pit stop time.
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Post by anton_Chez on Aug 5, 2019 11:51:46 GMT 10
Spot on Cambo and the series is working a treat. Legend.
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Post by cambo on Aug 5, 2019 15:30:36 GMT 10
The points table looks real close between all of us , game on
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Post by Sputnik_inc on Aug 5, 2019 16:12:37 GMT 10
Yeah not sure y we don't have more contenders in this mixed series.. its bloody awesome, whether yr leading or at the back yr never alone, cause u always got the LMP2 cars lapping u or if yr in the LMP2 yr passing GT3'3. No one knows whos on what strategy or whos faster.
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